Retired basketball player Dennis Rodman would really like for North Korean leader Kim Jong Un and U.S. President Donald Trump to just get over themselves already so the world can avoid war.
In remarks on a trip to Guam Thursday, Rodman said he would sacrifice his life to get the duo to start talking, according to the Pacific News Center. Rodman explained that he thinks the world leaders are acting like childen, squabbling over who’s tougher with their increasingly catty insults and threats to attack.
In fact, even though they only discuss basketball together, Rodman said he doesn’t think the dictator actually wants to use the weapons he’s allegedly developing.
“The way he talks to me, he doesn’t want to have war at all. It may sound like that on the news, but I see that Donald Trump and him is more like two big kids—who is the toughest?” Rodman said. “Because I don’t know why he would even, in my eyes remotely even, think about bombing anything in the world… I believe the more we talk he does not want to bomb anybody. He does not. And I’m telling you straight from my mouth. He don’t wanna do it.”
As the Washington Post pointed out recently, Rodman is one of the few mutual friends Kim and Trump have—or possibly the only one.
Rodman was on Trump’s show Celebrity Apprentice in 2009 and 2013, and in 2015 the athlete tweeted his support for the Republican’s presidential campaign. Rodman has also been to North Korea a handful of times, in 2013 calling Kim a “friend for life” and in 2014 publicly singing the supreme leader “Happy Birthday.”
On Thursday in Guam, Rodman wore a PotCoin.com shirt emblazoned with a picture of both men and himself grinning in the middle. But despite efforts like those, and the copy of Trump’s book The Art of the Deal he gave Kim in June, he still can’t get the two leaders together.
“It doesn’t hurt to try and open the door and try to have some communication. It doesn’t hurt,” the player added.
In fact, Rodman said his visit to Guam was intended to be a diplomatic one, as it comes after North Korea suggested it may soon launch missiles into the waters near the island. The reclusive country has tested about two dozen since February, according to CNN.
“I just came here to try and see if I could bridge the gap and show the leader of North Korea that I’m not afraid to come here,” Rodman said.
At the end of his news conference, Rodman gestured to the design on his shirt and promoted “peace, love and no war.”
“Let’s make this happen before we all die,” he finished. “And keep Guam safe.”